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File:Tour_Perret_Grenoble_vue_aerienne.jpg[edit]
Tower is copyrighted, no FOP in France. Eusebius (talk) 18:30, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- I think we should start talking about exemptions from strict commons rules for these cases. It'll be just impossible to illustrate any article about buildings in france like this. --PaterMcFly (talk) 20:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- This kind of picture should be uploaded locally when allowed, see fr:Wikipédia:Exceptions au droit d'auteur for the French WP exemption. This is a kind of "fair use" and is not ok on Commons, but it may or may not be ok on the local projects. --Eusebius (talk) 21:17, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- I know that these are currently not allowed on commons and on fr the rule seems to be challenged. They would be ok on en (fair use) and de (Panoramafreiheit, Schutzlandprinzip). I was more looking for an exemption that would i.e. allow non-commercial use only or something like this, but I was unable to find even such a rule in the french law so far. There seems to be not even something that allows use of such images for news reports, which I can hardly believe. Still checking. --PaterMcFly (talk) 07:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- There is indeed no copyright exemption in France for public non-commercial use. There are a few exemptions though, and news reports are covered under certain conditions (art. L122-5, 3° a et 9° du Code de la Propriété Intellectuelle). --Eusebius (talk) 08:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm... That's what I was looking for. Stupid law, just not practicable. I need some time to study this in detail (my french isn't so good any more...)
- Since you seem to be in france: Can you write them to change the law or you'll vote for the opposition next time... ;-) ? --PaterMcFly (talk) 12:09, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, stupid law, but, my opposition to whom? No (major) party seems willing to relax our copyright law, and we will soon be compelled by an international treaty (or a European Directive of the Council, if ACTA is not ratified) to strengthen it. I'm not very optimistic about that kind of things, photographer/user/general public lobbies aren't as influential as copyright holder lobbies. --Eusebius (talk) 12:42, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- It's very simple: There's no money in it for the general public lobbies. Do you have a link to that new treaty? Will that also be relevant for germany? --PaterMcFly (talk) 15:41, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, stupid law, but, my opposition to whom? No (major) party seems willing to relax our copyright law, and we will soon be compelled by an international treaty (or a European Directive of the Council, if ACTA is not ratified) to strengthen it. I'm not very optimistic about that kind of things, photographer/user/general public lobbies aren't as influential as copyright holder lobbies. --Eusebius (talk) 12:42, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- There is indeed no copyright exemption in France for public non-commercial use. There are a few exemptions though, and news reports are covered under certain conditions (art. L122-5, 3° a et 9° du Code de la Propriété Intellectuelle). --Eusebius (talk) 08:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- I know that these are currently not allowed on commons and on fr the rule seems to be challenged. They would be ok on en (fair use) and de (Panoramafreiheit, Schutzlandprinzip). I was more looking for an exemption that would i.e. allow non-commercial use only or something like this, but I was unable to find even such a rule in the french law so far. There seems to be not even something that allows use of such images for news reports, which I can hardly believe. Still checking. --PaterMcFly (talk) 07:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- This kind of picture should be uploaded locally when allowed, see fr:Wikipédia:Exceptions au droit d'auteur for the French WP exemption. This is a kind of "fair use" and is not ok on Commons, but it may or may not be ok on the local projects. --Eusebius (talk) 21:17, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
