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Please exclude SVG translations via the SVG Translate tool from Special:AbuseFilter/290[edit]
Hello. Mere translations of SVG files via the SVG Translate tool should be exempted from Special:AbuseFilter/290. This tool only lets users translate text labels in existing SVG files, which is a far cry from the major, disruptive overwrites that this abuse filter seeks to prevent. Thank you. Leptictidium (talk) 08:37, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Leptictidium: We have an exception in place for this. Please try leaving the Edit Summary alone. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Jeff G.: , what do you mean exactly? I just click the "Upload to Commons" button from the tool; as far as I know, I'm not touching the edit summary.--Leptictidium (talk) 07:39, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Leptictidium: In your last attempt to upload File:Route Punic army messana.svg, logged here, the tool wrote "Added translation for ca." at the end of the comment/summary/reason for you. @GPSLeo: this should have matched. When I translated the file, I got a similar comment/summary/reason (different language abbreviation), without allowing me any input but the language name. I think "contains" would be a much better condition for this than "rlike" in this diff. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:40, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- @GPSLeo: .Leptictidium (talk) 10:05, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- I adapted the filter. Please try if it works now. GPSLeo (talk) 17:50, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll try when I have a few minutes and report back.--Leptictidium (talk) 21:26, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- I adapted the filter. Please try if it works now. GPSLeo (talk) 17:50, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- @GPSLeo: .Leptictidium (talk) 10:05, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Leptictidium: In your last attempt to upload File:Route Punic army messana.svg, logged here, the tool wrote "Added translation for ca." at the end of the comment/summary/reason for you. @GPSLeo: this should have matched. When I translated the file, I got a similar comment/summary/reason (different language abbreviation), without allowing me any input but the language name. I think "contains" would be a much better condition for this than "rlike" in this diff. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:40, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Jeff G.: , what do you mean exactly? I just click the "Upload to Commons" button from the tool; as far as I know, I'm not touching the edit summary.--Leptictidium (talk) 07:39, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
It worked out just fine, thanks!--Leptictidium (talk) 20:03, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Category:Category:Cantonal police of the [editing] question[edit]
Wondering if it can be edited to put the correct links? It's in here. Ominae (talk) 07:44, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Well the category has already some images see Category:Kantonspolizei Thurgau. If you want to ad images to the category, the categories are at the bottom of every page and with hitting the + sign a field in which you can add letters in it opens. Then the available categories will appear. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 15:48, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Nah. I'm talking about the "Cantons of Switzerland" portion for Kantonspolizei Thurgau (I'll use that). The "Cantons of Switzerland" has URLs going to commons page for the various Swiss cantonal police forces. I'm trying to see if it can be edited in order to update the links. Ominae (talk) 04:43, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Pictures of my grandgrandfather[edit]
I wanna make a wikipedia page about my grandgrandfather who was a big artist and renovated for big churches in the mid 1900's, but when I try to upload some foto's it says that you couldn't figure out if the pictures arent copyrighted or something. I had these pictures in the living room since god knows what. Please help me update them I means a lot to me and I just feel like he deserves a wikipedia page after what has he done. Thank and please respond quickly. Proftomasek (talk) 17:57, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Proftomasek: You may need to declare your w:WP:COI before making an article about your great-grandfather. As for copyright, when did he die and which country did he live in? (to help determine the copyright status of his works). Abzeronow (talk) 18:03, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- He died in Tanvald (Czechoslovakia) on 27 July 1964 and he lived in Czechoslovakia (mainly Prague). Proftomasek (talk) 18:12, 27 December 2023 (UTC)Ce
- OK, his works are protected in Czechia until January 1, 2035 and cannot be uploaded on Commons until then. English Wikipedia would only require publication before 1928 so works published before then can be locally uploaded there. (Yes, copyright terms are rather long). Abzeronow (talk) 18:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Abzeronow and Proftomasek: other than the remark about en:WP:COI (Proftomasek, please do read that) that's not quite on the mark. If Proftomasek is the heir to their (I assume from the odd wording) great-grandfather's intellectual property, and if their great-grandfather took the photos, they could upload them here under an "heirs" license tag such as {{Cc-by-sa-4.0-heirs}} or {{heirs}}. On the other hand, if the photos were taken by someone else, that person or their heirs would have to give the relevant permissions. Also, if the photos are previously published, you would definitely have to go through the process described at COM:VRT.
- Proftomasek, I'd be glad to work with you on what can or can't be done. The Commons side of this is going to come down mainly to copyright issues; the Wikipedia side is going to come down mainly to conflict-of-interest issues. We can continue discussing here, or we can continue on your talk page (User talk:Proftomasek), which I'll make a point of following. - Jmabel ! talk 19:09, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the addendum, Jmabel. Yes, if Proftomasek is the heir to the intellectual property, then yes, they could upload as such. And they may need to get permission for the photographs were taken by someone other than their great-grandfather. Abzeronow (talk) 19:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your answer too. Proftomasek (talk) 19:44, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your answer. Proftomasek (talk) 19:44, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jmabel, in case you didn't see it, Jan Tomášek. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:24, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Proftomasek: quite a bit in these uploads is at least problematic. You never did say whether you are the heir to the relevant intellectual property. If you are, most of this is easily cleared up. If not, it's hard to see how we can keep anything but the signature.
- First a remark: copyright in the Czech Republic is life + 70 years. That means that if the author of the work lived until 1953 or later (1954 or later, as of this coming Monday), any copyrightable work is still copyrighted.
- Neither File:Jan Tomášek podpis.jpg, File:Jan Tomášek se synem Miloslavem.png, nor File:Jan Tomášek dopis od Osvobozeného Divadla.jpg can possibly be your "own work" (I guess a case could be made for File:Jan Tomášek podpis.jpg that the close-up photo is your own work, but what makes it if interest is presumably that it is Jan Tomášek's signature, which is clearly his work, not yours.). Please attribute the authorship accurately. (See, for comparison, what I did with File:Kamekichi Tokita, 'Backyard' (1934).jpg, admittedly a whole work, not just a signature, but note the difference between the photo credit and the credit for the underlying work).
- The first two lack categories. And you haven't created Category:Jan Tomášek (let me know if you do not understand how to do that).
- File:Jan Tomášek podpis.jpg is dated "mid-1900s" which would mean 1905; I presume you meant mid-20th-century, {{circa|1950}}. Is that correct?
- I'm guessing that the signature itself in File:Jan Tomášek podpis.jpg is below the threshold of originality for copyright (most signatures are), though the painted background could imaginably be a problem. Still that one is probably OK if we just clarify authorship.
- File:Jan Tomášek se synem Miloslavem.png: who took the photo? Until that is sorted out, the copyright status cannot possibly be determined.
- File:Jan Tomášek dopis od Osvobozeného Divadla.jpg: Presumably the copyright on that logo across the top at least originally resided with someone connected to the theatre, right? As I said above, certainly not "own work". Who designed the logo? Again, until that is sorted out, the copyright status cannot possibly be determined.
- I'm sorry, I'm sure this is not what you wanted to hear, but the simple fact is that Commons only hosts works that are either public domain or have an appropriate free license, and only a person who holds the copyright can issue the license. For File:Jan Tomášek podpis.jpg, you are claiming to own a copyright and to issue a license on something that is probably not copyrightable; it should probably be re-tagged at {{PD-ineligible}}, and we can keep it on that basis. For the other two, you are claiming to own a copyright and to issue a license on something that was certainly originally copyrightable, may still be copyrighted, is certainly not your "own work", and where it is not clear whether you own the copyright, and (if so) on what basis. - Jmabel ! talk 19:57, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- I would probably read mid-1900s as mid-20th-century (I would write c. 1905 otherwise), but I agree with your logic. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:03, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Proftomasek: quite a bit in these uploads is at least problematic. You never did say whether you are the heir to the relevant intellectual property. If you are, most of this is easily cleared up. If not, it's hard to see how we can keep anything but the signature.
- Thanks for the addendum, Jmabel. Yes, if Proftomasek is the heir to the intellectual property, then yes, they could upload as such. And they may need to get permission for the photographs were taken by someone other than their great-grandfather. Abzeronow (talk) 19:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- He died in Tanvald (Czechoslovakia) on 27 July 1964 and he lived in Czechoslovakia (mainly Prague). Proftomasek (talk) 18:12, 27 December 2023 (UTC)Ce
- You mention that your grandfather renovated churches. If the church is in Slovakia or Czechia then I recommend that you take exterior (outdoors) photographs of the church, since the freedom of panorama laws likely allow you to publish such photos without the permission of your grandfather's heirs. You still need permission from the photographer, which is why I recommend taking photos yourself. Also Abzeronow's note about declaring conflict of interest still applies. – b_jonas 17:08, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
Fluidesign boats logo[edit]
Hello,
I am currently working on a Wikipedia article titled Fluidesign boats and would like to enhance it with the company's logo for identification in the infobox. Attached is the logo file for Fluidesign. Could someone assist with uploading it to Wikimedia Commons in compliance with the relevant copyright and licensing requirements? Here is the logo file: 15005_fluidesign-inc_logo.png.
Thank you for your assistance!
Best regards, TudorTulok (talk) 18:00, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- @TudorTulok: that logo is right on the edge as to whether it is copyrightable. I'd seek others' opinion at Commons:Village pump/Copyright. If you ask there, mention that this is about Canada, because the threshold of originality varies from country to country.
- In any case, if all you are concerned with here is to get the logo into an English-language Wikipedia article, not specifically onto Commons, en-wiki (but not Commons) allows non-free use for cases like this. See en:Cadillac and en:File:Cadillac_(logo).svg for a good example of how to do this correctly. - Jmabel ! talk 19:14, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
Help with dilemma involving file renaming[edit]
I was trying to help with the backlog in Category:Media requiring renaming and I noticed a pattern. Kakibukitcibalak (talk · contribs) is tagging several files uploaded by Thalialioo (talk · contribs) for renaming, claiming that the person in the picture is not the correct indentified. See File:A group photo of people in a room.jpg, File:Juliarti Rahayu Gunawan 17 Agustusan Di Armidale Australia (cropped).jpg, File:A group photo of unknown people 2.jpg, File:Nia Kurniasih Ardikoesoema in Juanda International Airport 2014 (cropped).jpg for reference. Either Thalialioo or Kakibukitcibalak is acting in bad faith here. Can some experienced editor weight on this, please? Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 03:54, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- It looks like Kakibukitcibalak is also tagging files for renaming uploaded by users others than Thalialioo. Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 04:03, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Can someone help provide text translations of the text on these images[edit]
I have uploaded all the images currently in the category Category:Ujikofuda and they are all of the same object. Can someone help provide translations of the text present on the object? It was written in 1873 and isn't the most legible. I can take a better picture if required. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 06:10, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Even just transcriptions would be good. Some of these characters I really cannot figure out what they are supposed to be, since I think they have archaic forms or the government official had bad handwriting. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 06:47, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Xisitrus[edit]
Que tipo de archivo debe tener el escrito que deseo subir Xisitrus (talk) 12:58, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Xisitrus: Buenas. No mantenemos escritos aqui, por favor veas al COM:NOT/es. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:12, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
I added a free to use picture. And you took it away[edit]
I added an official Egmont-picture of Tormod Løkling. An you took it away? Why? This is free to use when he is described Tornes777 (talk) 13:33, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Tornes777 Images on Commons need to be "free to use", not "free to use when...". Probably you uploaded a promotional image, that is free to use for promotional use. It needs to be free to use for any use. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 13:50, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Tornes777: Where exactly did you get File:Tormod Løkling.jpg? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:00, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
What category for "hands in the side"[edit]
This photo is an example of people with "hands in the side" (if that is the right expression in English). Is there a appropriate category just like for example Category:Women with crossed arms? Wouter (talk) 13:56, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- I found now Category:People with hands on hips. Is that the right category? Wouter (talk) 14:07, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Wouterhagens: Category:Women with hands on hips. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:08, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. Thanks!Wouter (talk) 14:15, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Wouterhagens: You're welcome! — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:20, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. Thanks!Wouter (talk) 14:15, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
RE: List of categories created?[edit]
Hi,
Is it possible to get a link so we can see and search the categories we have created on WC?
Regards Darren J. Prior (talk) 20:43, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Darren J. Prior: Hi, In your contributions, filtered with the namespace category and page creations. -- Asclepias (talk) 21:48, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- There is no "page creations" coming up as an option for me there to press? Is there another term for it? Darren J. Prior (talk) 22:25, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Darren J. Prior: it’s a check-box labelled “Only show edits that are page creations” just below the tag-filter field, on the right.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 22:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Got it! Thanks brilliant you're a star. :) Darren J. Prior (talk) 22:38, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Darren J. Prior: it’s a check-box labelled “Only show edits that are page creations” just below the tag-filter field, on the right.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 22:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- There is no "page creations" coming up as an option for me there to press? Is there another term for it? Darren J. Prior (talk) 22:25, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
What does "current" beside list of categories created?[edit]
Can you tell me?
Regards Darren J. Prior (talk) 22:48, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Darren J. Prior: it appears on all contribution pages, beside those edits that are the latest made to the page. In other words, nothing has changed there since that edit was made, and in the page’s history it would appear at the top. In the case of categories, this does not count pages or subcats being added or removed, because those edits are made elsewhere.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 23:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ok thanks. :) Darren J. Prior (talk) 23:46, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Is there a native Kurdish speaker on Commons that could help provide context to the video in this DR? Trade (talk) 23:16, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
copyright tag[edit]
Hello. I have a photo to upload in the article in Spanish of Tormenta (singer). It is provided by the singer herself. Normally I did it using this tag: {{Permission pending|year=2023|month=December|day=30}}
But what was previously a valid tag now I get "The wikitext you wrote does not contain a valid template license."
Can you at least give me a guide on where I can find out what the correct process is like now?
greetings Oscar Antonio (talk) 04:35, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Oscar Antonio: that template was presumably not the problem. The problem is presumably the absence of a license template. Since you don't say what file you are talking about, I can't say anything more specific. - Jmabel ! talk 06:22, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi. How can I upload my own pic not under the lisence CC0?[edit]
I tried due to making new page, in the jpeg? but nothing work/ I`d like to use the template fairuse Rybka vogon (talk) 10:05, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, unfortunately fair use here is not allowed. Regards --Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR (talk) 16:50, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
Adding existing file to the "Media in category "Füssen"" section at Category:Füssen page[edit]
Hello. I would like to add a already existing file to the "Media in category "Füssen"" section at the Category:Füssen page. But I don't know how to add the already existing file. Can anyone please help me? Thanks in advance. P3Y229 (talk) 17:45, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- @P3Y229: Hello, Please do not do that, because this file is already in specific subcategories of the category Füssen. For the policy on categories, you can see Commons:Categories. -- Asclepias (talk) 18:19, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Asclepias:: Thanks for your information. Added the already existing file at the Füsssen page as an addition to an already existing, closely related image. P3Y229 (talk) 22:17, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
Upload image from unsplash.com[edit]
Hello friends, I hope you are well and Merry Christmas :) I have a question, if we see an image on unsplash.com and that image can be used on wikipedia, can we upload it here due to unsplash's free license? Is there a specific way to upload? Meyboad (talk) 22:31, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Meyboad: Hello, Please see the information on Template:Unsplash. If the image meets the condition about the publication date, you can upload it with any method you like. -- Asclepias (talk) 23:05, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
Category "Good pictures" dropdown[edit]
I have never understood how this is supposed to work. Let me give the random example of Category:Grange Chine. When I initially open this page, the dropdown at the top right of the page reads "Good pictures", giving the impression that this is what is being shown. However, when I actually click on "Good pictures", there is a message "No results" (message is too unobtrusive IMO, and main contents of page remain unchanged). Then when I click "All images" in the dropdown, the page layout changes, but the dropdown again goes back to reading "Good pictures". Is it just me, or is this dropdown not working correctly? ITookSomePhotos (talk) 23:26, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- @ITookSomePhotos: it can only be expected to work fully on a category page where there are images with the chosen designation. What happens if you click “Quality images” in the drop-down at Cruise ships in British Columbia?—Odysseus1479 (talk) 01:57, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Odysseus1479: Of course, it can only display images of the chosen type when some exist, but when none exist it should still behave sensibly. As I said, category pages initially come up ostensibly showing "Good pictures", even though when you explicitly choose "Good pictures" there are said to be "No results" (yet the page itself confusingly carries on showing what actually appears to be all members of the category). So perhaps pages come up initially showing "All images" (in the category), but no, apparently not, since choosing "All images" produces something different again. It is confusing and appears broken to the ordinary user. BTW, at Cruise ships in British Columbia the dropdown does not work at all for me (unresponsive). ITookSomePhotos (talk) 20:54, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- @ITookSomePhotos: it’s supposed to create a gallery of borderless images above all the other content, each with a small badge indicating the type of ‘goodness’. (It does not filter or hide items on the rest of the page.) Yesterday it was fairly prompt, but when I tried today my request went into a queue—as indicated in the status line, which is indeed “unobtrusive”, speaking diplomatically. ;) Give it a few minutes, though; it did come through for me eventually. (I believe “All images” means all those designated in the menu below, not literally all.) TBH I don’t use the tool often or know much about it; I suggest posting at the Technical Village Pump for more info about its function or to find out who maintains it.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 21:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
P.S. I just noticed that Help:FastCCI is linked from the bottom menu item.—21:47, 31 December 2023 (UTC)- @Odysseus1479: Thanks, what you say does make sense. It seems to me, then, that the main problem, or the biggest source of confusion, is that the category page initially displays with the heading "Good pictures", giving the obvious impression that the initial page contents are "Good pictures", and that choosing something else from the dropdown list will change those contents to something else. I think it would be much clearer if the dropdown initially said something like "Choose type" ("type" isn't the best word), and also if the behaviour was improved when the chosen type doesn't exist -- not just a tiny line "No results" that appears to contradict the fact that the page as a whole remains populated with exactly the same items as before, i.e. what seems like the same "results". ITookSomePhotos (talk) 22:18, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Pinging @Dschwen as maintainer. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 06:39, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- @ITookSomePhotos: it’s supposed to create a gallery of borderless images above all the other content, each with a small badge indicating the type of ‘goodness’. (It does not filter or hide items on the rest of the page.) Yesterday it was fairly prompt, but when I tried today my request went into a queue—as indicated in the status line, which is indeed “unobtrusive”, speaking diplomatically. ;) Give it a few minutes, though; it did come through for me eventually. (I believe “All images” means all those designated in the menu below, not literally all.) TBH I don’t use the tool often or know much about it; I suggest posting at the Technical Village Pump for more info about its function or to find out who maintains it.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 21:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Odysseus1479: Of course, it can only display images of the chosen type when some exist, but when none exist it should still behave sensibly. As I said, category pages initially come up ostensibly showing "Good pictures", even though when you explicitly choose "Good pictures" there are said to be "No results" (yet the page itself confusingly carries on showing what actually appears to be all members of the category). So perhaps pages come up initially showing "All images" (in the category), but no, apparently not, since choosing "All images" produces something different again. It is confusing and appears broken to the ordinary user. BTW, at Cruise ships in British Columbia the dropdown does not work at all for me (unresponsive). ITookSomePhotos (talk) 20:54, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
klete keller[edit]
Hi, maybe someone can help - i'm not a lawyer and can't figure out all these complicated licenses.. the only photo I could find of Klete Keller that may be allowed on wikipedia is this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/emmymik/1012273538 ..It currently has a status of: "some rights reserved" - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/ CC BY-NC-ND 2.0 DEED This might as well be chinese to me - can someone advise if this photo can be added to the Klete Keller wiki page without risk of deletion? thank you 84.247.97.10 04:40, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- That is a no go for Commons because it has a noncommercial restriction (NC) and doesn't allow derivative works (ND), both of which go against what Commons considers a free license. Abzeronow (talk) 16:23, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- ok thank you - saved me alot of work for nothing.. do you know where I can find a pic of Klete Keller that can be used? appreciate any help. 84.247.97.9 00:39, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- On Flickr, when searching for photos after the basic term or name you're searching for, click the "Any license" and select "Commercial use & mods allowed" to find images free enough for use on Wikimedia Commons. I just tried that with "Klete Keller" and unfortunately didn't find any images so licensed on Flickr. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- thanks, yes i've been searching for almost a year and nothing comes up anywhere :( if you have any other ideas please let me know. happy new year. 84.247.97.9 01:28, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- Regrettably, some articles just don't have images. DS (talk) 17:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- most bio's do.. i'll keep searching, thanks. 84.247.97.11 01:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Regrettably, some articles just don't have images. DS (talk) 17:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- thanks, yes i've been searching for almost a year and nothing comes up anywhere :( if you have any other ideas please let me know. happy new year. 84.247.97.9 01:28, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- On Flickr, when searching for photos after the basic term or name you're searching for, click the "Any license" and select "Commercial use & mods allowed" to find images free enough for use on Wikimedia Commons. I just tried that with "Klete Keller" and unfortunately didn't find any images so licensed on Flickr. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- ok thank you - saved me alot of work for nothing.. do you know where I can find a pic of Klete Keller that can be used? appreciate any help. 84.247.97.9 00:39, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Account Setup[edit]
I tried to setup account but received an auto block. My current account IP address is: 2a09:bac3:a91b:166e::23c:57 and the block ID I #462087 . Please advise what issue(s) may be needed to resolve. Thank You 2603:6012:600:4F1D:95F6:5EBD:5B20:1517 18:06, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- But clearly here you are accessing from elsewhere, on an IP that isn't blocked, so just set up the account from here. That other address is an open proxy so, indeed, you cannot create an account from there. - Jmabel ! talk 19:38, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
completion to el.wikipedia.org[edit]
How can i put a file that i uploaded to this?? https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Σαμποτάζ_του_Έβρου ΣοΝιΔημ (talk) 19:53, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- @ΣοΝιΔημ: the help page for placing images is at mw:Help:Images/el. But as a short-cut I would suggest browsing elWP for an illustration that’s laid out the way you want to show your picture in the Evros article, then copying the wikicode from the example page while replacing the filename (and caption, if applicable).—Odysseus1479 (talk) 20:48, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
TimedText for Tooro[edit]
It seems that the Tooro language is not supported by TimedText, as the namespace for Tooro subtitles says "ttj subtitles for clip:" instead of "Tooro subtitles for clip:" (unlike related languages such as Nyoro, Nkore and Kiga) and the CC icon will not allow you to use Tooro subtitles. Thus, for Anthem of the Tooro Kingdom.oga, only the English subtitles can be used despite the Tooro subtitles also existing. Ahiise2 (talk) 16:11, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Ahiise2 i think you need to report on phab: to ask the developers to add ttj to the list of languages supported. RZuo (talk) 12:32, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Ahiise2 (talk) 15:55, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Update: Feature request created. Ahiise2 (talk) 17:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Update 2: Tooro and Nyoro are in the process of being added to Names.php. Ahiise2 (talk) 12:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Update: Feature request created. Ahiise2 (talk) 17:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Ahiise2 (talk) 15:55, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Delete picture[edit]
hoe I can delete my picture Youngman1991 (talk) 20:15, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Photo licensing question[edit]
I am a Wikipedia editor. I have a photo for a biographical article about a deceased person. The person who permitted me to use the photo owns the physical copy of the photo, which was given to him by the family of the deceased person. The owner of the photo understands what a photo being on wikimedia commons entails, and is happy for this photo to be uploaded.
Do I need permission from the family of the subject of the photo before uploading? Menacinglavender (talk) 05:24, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Menacinglavender: you don’t say what country the photo is from or when it was taken, but the person from whom you need permission is usually the photographer (or xyr heirs). If it’s an impromptu/amateur photo that might indeed be a family member, but otherwise they have no say insofar as copyright is concerned. If the photo is old enough we can assume it to be PD, even if the creator is unknown, with no permission needed from anybody. (A “Collection of X” credit to the owner is good for provenance, aside from being courteous, but is not required for licensing.)—Odysseus1479 (talk) 07:49, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- But "old enough" is quite old: 120 years (1903 or earlier) and/or (if it is in the U.S.) published before
19231929. (There are a few countries with shorter terms, e.g. Argentina, Italy.) - Jmabel ! talk 18:53, 2 January 2024 (UTC)- Before 1923? Didn't we just advance to "before 1929"? --Rosenzweig τ 18:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- If this is for the English-language Wikipedia, it may be simpler to leave Commons out of the picture and upload the image on a non-free basis. See en:John du Pont for a good example (click through on the lead photo, you'll see how they handled this). - Jmabel ! talk 19:01, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- From the OP’s enWP user page I guess the relevant country is New Zealand. IIUC the rights on a commissioned photo there belong to the person ordering the work unless the contract says otherwise. So even a professional portrait’s copyright might belong to a family member. Also AFAICT the 50-year term for a work of unknown authorship doesn’t start until it’s published.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 20:59, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- But "old enough" is quite old: 120 years (1903 or earlier) and/or (if it is in the U.S.) published before
My photo was nominated to delete - but it's my property.[edit]
The photo I uploaded https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ninawawryszuk was nominated for deletion. I am the author of this photo (this is me, shot taken by self-timer). I am the owner for this picture. Please cancel the deletion process and show me what to do to avoid this kind of problems in the future. Ninawawryszuk (talk) 12:05, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- The issue here is not copyright, but scope: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ninawawryszuk.jpg. Seeing the quality of the picture, I would keep this one. Yann (talk) 12:10, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Non carica la foto[edit]
Ho una mia foto personale che mi ritrae in una posa di quando facevo ginnastica e gareggiavo ma non riesco a caricarla sulla pagina di Ilenia Meneghesso, nonchè la sottoscritta. Grazie Ilenia79 (talk) 15:09, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm a bit confused here.
- Normally, the copyright of a photo belongs to the photographer, not the subject, and only the owner of the copyright can grant a license. So if the photo is of you, then presumably you are not the person who can legitimately grant a license.
- On the technical side: you don't say what tool you were using to upload the photo, or what went wrong, but usually the best way for beginners to upload to Commons is with Special:UploadWizard.
- By the way, if you are Ilenia Meneghesso, you may want to set up a verified account. Not required since you are using only your first name, but probably still a good idea. See Commons:Username policy#Well-known names and names of organizations. - Jmabel ! talk 19:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
How do I add a photo from Commons to articles[edit]
on English Wikipedia? I thought this would be easy and basic info, but I cannot find the instructions. Yesterday I added to Commons a publicly available, out of copyright photo of attorney Roslyn Litman with her client, the professional basketball player Connie Hawkins. Each of them has an article on English Wikipedia, where I am an autoconfirmed editor but not experienced in inserting a photo. Where can I find the step-by-step instructions for this process? PDGPA (talk) 15:30, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- You might be looking for WP:COMMONS. Ahiise2 (talk) 17:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- @PDGPA: Hi, and welcome. You have triggered Special:AbuseFilter/156 by trying to upload smaller (<50,000 bytes) jpg images as a new user. Please see COM:HR. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:49, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. Not sure the significance of that "abuse" warning. The picture is not publicly available, to my knowledge, in any higher resolution format. In any event, it appears to now be added to Commons, and I then used that link to add it to the Wikipedia article on each of the individuals pictured. PDGPA (talk) 18:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
TVLine uploaded a new promo art of NCIS but can it be used?[edit]
TVLine just uploaded this image: https://www.tvinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/ncis-season-21-key-art-768x1112.jpg
and I’m wondering if this is okay to upload to Wikimedia Commons and use it for NCIS Season 21 Wikipedia page? RayKVega (talk) 05:27, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @RayKVega only if it satisfies com:licensing. most posters dont. RZuo (talk) 06:37, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- No, for such recent promotional works unless the creator/copyright holder specifically authorizes free license, assume it is under copyright. It cannot be uploaded here to Commons, which is for free licensed images only. (English language Wikipedia does allow limited "fair use" of copyrighted material; ask there for details.) -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
I try uploading a picture but I cannot save it to common, why?[edit]
I try to upload as shown, I drag and drop the photo. The photo appear but I cannot save it because there is no text that tells me that surrounding my photo. When I click it, the menu that appear pertains only to my pc. but not to wikipedia media. EmerEvolve (talk) 10:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @EmerEvolve: Hi, and welcome. We need more details, for instance "as shown" where? You have also triggered Special:AbuseFilter/156 by trying to upload smaller (<50,000 bytes) jpg images as a new user. Please see COM:HR. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:50, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Wrong "Inventories of American Painting and Sculpture control number" link generated[edit]
The Inventories of American Painting and Sculpture control number for the https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mary_Cassatt,_Mother_and_Child,_c._1905,_NGA_46573.jpg painting is 08600040.The value stored at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20190957 is IAP 08600040. With that value, the References link generated in the https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mary_Cassatt,_Mother_and_Child,_c._1905,_NGA_46573.jpg Summary section points to https://siris-artinventories.si.edu/ipac20/ipac.jsp?&menu=search&index=.NW&term=IAP resulting in the following warning when that is accessed:
Search results:
373832 titles matched:IAP
Warning: Unable to sort search results. The maximum number of results for searching has been exceeded.
That link is different from the Inventories of American Painting and Sculpture control number https://siris-artinventories.si.edu/ipac20/ipac.jsp?&menu=search&index=.NW&term=IAP%2008600040 link at the https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20190957 file, that instead of 373832 results, only finds the painting of interest.
For some reason whatever generates the https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mary_Cassatt,_Mother_and_Child,_c._1905,_NGA_46573.jpg Summary section References link is truncating what follows IAP in the https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20190957 Inventories of American Painting and Sculpture control number. Mabrndt (talk) 15:25, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Good observation. You could post to Commons:Village pump/Technical also. This problem also affects other files, probably all files in the same situation. Strangely, the link to the inventory in the category links to a search page on the number, which is not as bad as in the file description pages, although not correct either. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging Jarekt: Hi, Any idea to fix the artwork links to the siris webpages? -- Asclepias (talk) 17:23, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Image usage rights[edit]
Hello, I got permission from the Utah Historical Society to use this image of the delegates from the Utah Constitutional Convention. They historical society said to upload it with the stipulation that it had to be used for non-commercial purposes, and credit should be given. I uploaded it like that, but upon returning to the file later on I found someone had changed it to be "public domain." I am confused and want to avoid trouble with the Utah Historical Society and would appreciate any help. Thanks. Moroni713 (talk) 19:03, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Moroni713: On what possible basis are they claiming that a U.S. image published in 1895 is still in copyright? Clearly it is {{PD-US-expired}}, no matter what they may say.
- FWIW, if it were still copyrighted (and they owned the copyright), non-commercial licenses are not acceptable for Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 20:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel Does that include movie posters and TV shows promo artworks such as this one from NCIS that just came out yesterday? RayKVega (talk) 23:25, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @RayKVega: Yes, similar rules for everything - per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/United States looks like that NCIS image may fall into the public domain 95 years after creation, so could probably be uploaded here on 1 January 2120. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:36, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- 2120. I made a similar mistake a week ago. But, yes, 95 years assuming there is no identified individual author. If there is, then for U.S. works first published 2003 or later, it's life + 70 years, which of course could be earlier or later, but for works whose authors were alive at time of publication won't begin to be relevant at all before 2073. - Jmabel ! talk 00:15, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes thanks, Jmabel, year corrected :-) I was aware that there are also other factors - which is why I said "may" rather than "will" - but I wanted to give RayKVega a general sense that it wouldn't be PD any time soon. Cheers! -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 02:07, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- @RayKVega: Yes, similar rules for everything - per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/United States looks like that NCIS image may fall into the public domain 95 years after creation, so could probably be uploaded here on 1 January 2120. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:36, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the image published in the USA in 1895 is {{PD-US-expired}}, no matter what the Historical Society may say. Giving them a link or credit as a courtesy is good, but understand they cannot put a copyright restriction on something that is already public domain. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:39, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- I should also point out, it's by J. W. Shipler, who died in 1937. So it'd be "-auto-expired|1937". DS (talk) 23:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Good point. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 02:07, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I need help![edit]
I'm not sure about uploading a screenshot of another website to Commons. Do I still need to display the license of copyright? What if there's insufficient info about the license of the website? Cowboyhats12 (talk) 20:00, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Cowboyhats12: There is no general answer to your question, you'd need to give a more concrete example.
- For what it's worth, well over 95% of what is on the Internet is copyrighted, does not offer a free license, and therefore is not suitable for Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 20:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Cowboyhats12 Jmabel is right. Commons only accepts commercial-type licenses according to COM:Licensing#Acceptable licenses, like CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, CC-zero, and PD. See also COM:CRSM#Internet images. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 00:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
How to release a photo of a sketch by a dead artist.[edit]
Hello:
I am. assisting a friend of mine (Mark) in creating a wiki page. The pagee is about an artist who is no longer alive. The artists name is Eugene Chodorow.
Mark has taken a photo of a sketch that Eugene made. That sketch was used by Eugene as a guide when Eugene painted a mural. The Sketch was nevere published. Eugene's daughter, who is still alive, owns the sketch.
Do I have to get Eugene's daughter, to fill out Wikipedia's Creative Commons release form?
Thanks Go1denScarab Go1denScarab (talk) 02:29, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Go1denScarab:
- If Eugene's daughter has a web presence that is clearly hers, and where it is clear that she is the artist's daughter, she can just grant the license on a page clearly under her control. Then you or anyone can reference that as a source when uploading. She could even do that after-the-fact, with her permission and the Commons file page cross-linking to one another.
- In theory, Eugene's daughter can create an account of her own and upload using a license like {{Cc-by-sa-4.0-heirs}}, but I could imagine someone doubting her identity and having no way to check without going through VRT anyway, so I don't recommend that approach.
- I think the simplest thing would be for Eugene's daughter to go through the process outlined at COM:VRT to grant a license.
- - Jmabel ! talk 03:00, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Go1denScarab: Right, and you also need permission from Mark for the photo. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 03:06, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Is there a template for "this file should be wikitext?"[edit]
I very vaguely remember that I used to tag files as "this should be wikitext, replace with the following wiki-code and delete the file later", but I forgot whether I used to use a template for these. I tried searching for "replaced by Wikitext" in Special:Search under the "general help" preset, but most of the hits were deletion requests. Artoria2e5 contribs 04:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm an idiot, Template:ShouldBeText. Artoria2e5 contribs 04:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I need to reupload a entire directory[edit]
I was so stupid. I used the Samsung gallery as a file picker. It removed all the exif info when it handed the files over to commons.
Okay. Now I have a different file picker that won't strip the exif info.
But I can't reupload any of those files because it says they are duplicates!
Therefore will the team kindly remove all the files that look like... https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:20231101_Taiwan_night_overflight_29.jpg yes all 29 of them. Because there's no way I can individually replace each single one... that would take all night. So just remove all of them so I can re-upload the entire directory. Thank you very much. Jidanni (talk) 07:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:20231101_Luzon_night_overflight_11.jpg also needs to be removed. All 11 of them. However there's a similarly named set of 11 pictures that I uploaded right after those. Those need to stay. Those are the correct replacements.
- Yes the upload form shows clearly if there is latitude and longitude. Therefore I will pay more attention. To make sure that whatever file picker I use doesn't strip it ever again. Jidanni (talk) 07:15, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- exif is still there?
- Camera manufacturer
- samsung
- Camera model
- SM-A136U
- Date and time of data generation
- 19:23, 1 November 2023
- ... RZuo (talk) 08:45, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Apart from that: The upload process will only indicate a duplicate for completely identical files (i.e. both come with exif or both come without exif). While files should contain exif, it is ok, it they don't have it. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 23:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- okay. You are both very right. By exif info I was mainly referring to the very valuable locations. The Samsung corporation, no matter via its gallery app, or its files app is probably attempting to protect the user from accidentally divulging his location. Okay fine.
- Okay now I've used the CX file explorer app as a selector and successfully got all my pictures uploaded with their locations!
- And indeed you were right, I saw the warnings, when I was actually unintentionally about to upload a second bad set.
- Okay now all that needs to be done is for somebody to please remove the above mentioned 29 images, and the other 11 images also mentioned above.
- I have used slightly different names to successfully upload a fresh set of the 29, and fresh set of the 11.
- Please use the URLs I have mentioned above. If you look in my contributions you'll get confused because of similar names. So don't look there. Just use those URLs above and change the numbers at the back. Thanks! Jidanni (talk) 02:16, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jidanni: Done. By the way, in the future, when referring to files on Commons, please use internal links (e.g. File:20231101 Taiwan night overflight 29.jpg rather than URLs. Unlike URLs, these will work correctly both for people using a phone/tablet and people using a PC. - Jmabel ! talk 06:00, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Apart from that: The upload process will only indicate a duplicate for completely identical files (i.e. both come with exif or both come without exif). While files should contain exif, it is ok, it they don't have it. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 23:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Deletion request[edit]
I've lost all means of contacting the author of this photo, therefore I ask you to delete it as I won't be able to provide sufficient licensing information. Thanks! --Oleh325 (talk) 13:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Oleh325: Hi, and welcome. File:Ambasador Dytynstva Anthem.jpg will probably be deleted in a week. Please read COM:DP. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:39, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Done Prompt request by uploader to delete, no reason to wait. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:20, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
A more correct name for an old portrait on "Commons" please[edit]
This old photo below: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Matriach_Sarah_Meadows_Martineau_%28d.1800%29.jpg
has a strange name/title which includes the unnecessary word "Matriarch".
I suggest - using this link below as guidance - https://www.leodis.net/viewimage/103813
That the file/name be changed to Dame Sarah Martineau
Thank you in advance 175.38.42.62 05:57, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, and welcome. Please use {{Rename}} or our RenameLink gadget, as well as internal links. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 06:27, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- I got very confused trying to change the name of the above Commons file/image.
I tried to read your instructions - but "Gadget" made no sense to me. I did not know where to start. I am a mature man and maybe shouldn't be trying to change the names of files. I feel helpless and hopeless! 175.38.42.62 07:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- I was hoping that you would click the (probably blue) words I wrote above as wikilinks, like "Rename", "our RenameLink gadget", and "internal links". However, as an anonymous user, you are not allowed to use most gadgets. This is one of many reasons to create an account and log in. See also User talk:Srbernadette#File copyright status. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 08:07, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- I did click on the blue words - as you hoped I might - but did not know what to do. If you are able to place a more appropriate name on the file, that would be wonderful. Perhaps I can ask a technician for assistance thanks again 175.38.42.62 10:36, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- To reduce headaches, I don't rename files that are unlikely to stick around. Also, "Matriach" ≠ "Matriarch" (note the missing "r"). — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeff G.: in what sense "unlikely to stick around"? - Jmabel ! talk 20:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: Did you read what I wrote at User talk:Srbernadette#File copyright status? Do you consider special:diff/788171915 plus my doubts sufficient justification for a DR? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:23, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeff G.: no, unsurprisingly I was not following this user's talk page, and while it had been linked earlier in the conversation it was not linked in your remark about "unlikely to stick around". But if it is, indeed, an early 19th-century image (and it looks like it could be) it should certainly be PD. - Jmabel ! talk 00:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/1/13/Meadows-271.jpg does suggest the underlying picture is actually by Opie, unless someone is perpetrating a pretty elaborate hoax. - Jmabel ! talk 00:45, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- I also believe that the portrait is genuine (by John Opie) and I also note that its strange title "Matriach" is wrong and/or makes no sense. The subject's name according to the Leodis article - see above - is Dame Sarah Martineau. I cannot change the name as I am not technically proficient enough. Can someone please do this ? Thanks in advance. 175.38.42.62 01:59, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @175.38.42.62: No, it is not that you are "not technically proficient enough": it's that you are not a filemover (you're not even editing from a logged-in account). And, please, hold your horses. This doesn't seem to have consensus yet, still waiting to hear from Jeff G. whether he still has doubts, and if so why. - Jmabel ! talk 07:05, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- I also believe that the portrait is genuine (by John Opie) and I also note that its strange title "Matriach" is wrong and/or makes no sense. The subject's name according to the Leodis article - see above - is Dame Sarah Martineau. I cannot change the name as I am not technically proficient enough. Can someone please do this ? Thanks in advance. 175.38.42.62 01:59, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: Did you read what I wrote at User talk:Srbernadette#File copyright status? Do you consider special:diff/788171915 plus my doubts sufficient justification for a DR? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:23, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeff G.: in what sense "unlikely to stick around"? - Jmabel ! talk 20:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- To reduce headaches, I don't rename files that are unlikely to stick around. Also, "Matriach" ≠ "Matriarch" (note the missing "r"). — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- I did click on the blue words - as you hoped I might - but did not know what to do. If you are able to place a more appropriate name on the file, that would be wonderful. Perhaps I can ask a technician for assistance thanks again 175.38.42.62 10:36, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
A more correct name for an old portrait on "Commons" please[edit]
Please see above (7 sections above) for the most recent communication on this matter. Thanks 175.38.42.62 02:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- Now, of course, one section above because I moved this. Please don't split a single discussion to non-adjacent sections. And don't presume that "7 sections above" will make any sense over time: sections get archived one-by-one, the intervals can change. - Jmabel ! talk 06:55, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Confusing language at a template: please clarify on DACH copyright law[edit]
{{Urheberrechtlich geschützt}} says that in Austria, Germany, and Switzerland, a creative work may be under copyright if the author has not yet been deceased for 70 years. This tag is applied to works such as File:Steamboat Willie Enters the Public Domain.jpg, which is explicitly licensed as CC BY 4.0. Is there something about the law of these three places that prohibits someone from licensing his own work as CC BY? Do they not recognize the ability of authors to release certain restrictions to their own work? This seems pretty incredible and unlikely to me, but if so, this template presumably needs to be added to tens of millions of files here or it should be removed on files that are contemporaneous and deliberately given CC (or GFDL, etc.) licenses. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Justin: That template is only used 60 times (redirect {{Geschützt}} is used another 9 times), and it was added to that file in this edit 16:20, 2 January 2024 (UTC) by Chaddy. They may be able to explain why. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:11, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Copyrighted derivatives of copyrighted previous works have two or more copyrights: the copyright of the previous work, which is owned by the copyright owner of the previous work, and the copyrights of the the additional creative works added to form the derivative work, which are owned by the copyright owners of the additional creative works added to form the final derivative work. In the case of the file in the above example, the de.wm template does not relate to the added work that is licensed CC, it relates to the previous original non-free work from which the final work is derived. See Commons:Derivative works, mutatis mutandis for the copyrights in the countries considered by the de.wm projects. -- Asclepias (talk) 14:48, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, but who is that person purported to be in this case? For convenience, let's say that it's Ub Iwerks, who died in 1971. This is a work for hire, so he never personally owned the copyright to his work. In DACH places, do they just assign him the copyright anyway? What about works made for the United States federal government, which are all public domain locally? Are they given a copyright in spite of the fact that they literally never had one? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:04, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- In Germany, there is no "work for hire" concept, the copyright always remains with the author (a human being, with some limited exceptions for older German works that do not apply to foreign works). And Germany has a bilateral copyright treaty with the US from the late 1800s (still in force) which says that works by American authors are given the same copyright protection in Germany as local works by German authors. So the German copyright for the works of Ub Iwerks rests with Iwerks or more precisely his heirs, until the end of 2041. The situation is probably similar in other countries. --Rosenzweig τ 16:34, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wow. Also true in Austria and Switzerland? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:00, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think so, but I would have to check to be absolutely sure. Generally, Austrian copyright is very similar to German copyright, while Swiss copyright can be a bit different. --Rosenzweig τ 17:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wow. Also true in Austria and Switzerland? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:00, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- In Germany, there is no "work for hire" concept, the copyright always remains with the author (a human being, with some limited exceptions for older German works that do not apply to foreign works). And Germany has a bilateral copyright treaty with the US from the late 1800s (still in force) which says that works by American authors are given the same copyright protection in Germany as local works by German authors. So the German copyright for the works of Ub Iwerks rests with Iwerks or more precisely his heirs, until the end of 2041. The situation is probably similar in other countries. --Rosenzweig τ 16:34, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, but who is that person purported to be in this case? For convenience, let's say that it's Ub Iwerks, who died in 1971. This is a work for hire, so he never personally owned the copyright to his work. In DACH places, do they just assign him the copyright anyway? What about works made for the United States federal government, which are all public domain locally? Are they given a copyright in spite of the fact that they literally never had one? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:04, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Duration of copyright based on the year of death of the author is the law in most countries, I think. However, it can coexist with concepts in some ways similar to work for hire. For example, in the Canadian law, Article 13(3), when a work is made in the course of employment, the employer is the owner of the copyright. But the duration of that copyright is still based on the year of death of the employee who is the author. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:50, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: That's the distinction between the author of a work and the holder of the copyright on that work. The duration of the copyright is calculated on the basis of the year of death of the author. It remains fixed to that. It doesn't change everytime the copyright changes owner and becomes held by some person or another. The enforcement of the copyright is the prerogative of whoever happens to be the copyright holder at any given time, but the duration of the copyright doesn't change, it always remains fixed on the basis of the year of death of the author.
- Works made for the U.S. gov are copyrighted even in the U.S., unless they are made by regular employees of the U.S. gov, in which case they are in the public domain in the U.S. only. As is specified in the official copyright notice of the U.S. gov, the U.S. gov does state that it holds the copyright on those works in the countries under whose laws they are copyrighted, even if they are not copyrighted under the U.S. law. They do have a copyright in those countries and always had one. The U.S. gov probably exercises its foreign copyrights rarely, but it can do it. By the way, that's why it is important for Commons to keep the free licenses sometimes attributed to those works, e.g. CC by or CC0 on flickr, as those free licenses make the works free worldwide, whereas an unlicensed automatic PD-US-gov applies in the U.S. only. The author is whoever is identified as such. If unknown, then it follows the rules for anonymous works. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:55, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but to be clear, I'm not talking about the existence of a copyright, but the licensing of a copyright for the new work that is that file. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:02, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- That template is used in the German language versions of various PD-US, PD-Italy and similar license tags. Like this: [1] --Rosenzweig τ 16:41, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Rosenzweig: I see, so this template transclusion count from the templatecount tool does not include the German language versions, which I think should be fixed. Is there any lobbying to get work for hire into the copyright law of such country or countries? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 17:38, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeff G.: I'm not aware of any such lobbying. In Germany, this situation is managed by Nutzungsrechte (usage rights) and contracts. --Rosenzweig τ 17:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Rosenzweig: I see, so this template transclusion count from the templatecount tool does not include the German language versions, which I think should be fixed. Is there any lobbying to get work for hire into the copyright law of such country or countries? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 17:38, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Political Party logo - public domain?[edit]
Hi there. I am looking to create a wikipedia page on a new political party (Brighton and Hove Independents) that was formed and registered in 2022 and contested Brighton and Hove City Council Elections on 4th May 2023, winning 2 out of 54 seats. There is no wikipedia page for it. The logo image for this party is published on the UK Electoral Commission Register. I wanted to know, does this count as being in the public domain for the purposes of a Wikimedia Commons upload? As I would like to use the logo for the page. I am not associated with the party in any way, so do not have ownership of the image. Wasp681 (talk) 15:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Wasp681: Hi, Recent logos are copyrighted and not free, like any other artistic work, unless they are very simple, such as to be PD-textlogo. -- Asclepias (talk) 15:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick reply. I will create the page without the logo in that case Wasp681 (talk) 15:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Wasp681: The English-language Wikipedia may allow the non-free logo in the article about the party, if the logo is uploaded to that Wikipedia, not to Commons. There should be an option for that at Wikipedia. However, before you put much work into the article, a first question will be to meet the notability criteria of Wikipedia. Please see all that with Wikipedia. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:01, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick reply. I will create the page without the logo in that case Wasp681 (talk) 15:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
I would like to upload a city flag[edit]
I would like to upload a city flag, as I am currently attempting to edit a page with US city flags archives, the reason being that my desired cities flag is not listed. I am not sure if I have the ability to upload this flag, and am wondering whether I need permission to do so. Diibragimov (talk) 15:22, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Diibragimov: Which state is the city in, and do you know when the city flag you want to add was created? Abzeronow (talk) 17:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, most U.S. city flags are copyrighted, but there are exceptions. Besides what Abzeronow asked, it would be very useful if you would simply say what city. - Jmabel ! talk 20:52, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Свиридов, Виктор Михайлович[edit]
Не могу самостоятельно восстановить страницу Свиридов Виктор Михайлович. Помогите мне ее восстановить. Свиридов Виктор Михайлович (talk) 16:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Свиридов Виктор Михайлович: Я понятия не имею, о какой странице вы говорите. Вы уверены, что это вопрос о Wikimedia Commons? Jmabel ! talk 20:54, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Biography of a deceased person[edit]
Hi, i am preparing my father's biography, he was an Iraqi Composer; who passed away in 2007. I have prepared the biography along with the required citations and references and links etc.. i would like to add a profile picture, which is available in the public domain and used by other online articles etc, but during the upload process it is rejected. Could you assist me or guide me on the matter. It is a photo of my deceased father. Sue Cosgrave (talk) 19:44, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Why is the picture in the public domain? (Do keep in mind that well under 5% of what is on the Internet is in the public domain.) You might want to look at Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Iraq. - Jmabel ! talk 20:58, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- By the way, while the following isn't Commons' affair: you should definitely read en:WP:COI and make the relevant disclosure about your relation to the person you are writing about, because if you don't do that then you are very likely to be blocked on the English-language Wikipedia. - Jmabel ! talk 21:01, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Upload issues[edit]
on the talk page for WIKITONGUES- jan Tepo and jan Lakuse speaking Toki Pona.webm, I have included some of my issues with trying to upload/convert/compress the file required for this video, if someone would be willing to help, I would be very thankful. JnpoJuwan (talk) 23:48, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @JnpoJuwan: I tried with COM:V2C, but had no luck. @Chicocvenancio: could you try, perhaps without "?dl=0"? https://www.dropbox.com/s/cbued08gyf8zei1/jan%20Lakuse%20en%20jan%20Tepo%20li%20toki%20pona%20tawa%20kulupu%20Wikton.mp4 is 912,128 KB. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:56, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
छोटी आटा चक्की कीमत - Small Flour Mill Price[edit]
छोटी आटा चक्की कीमत - "Small Flour Mill Price" संतोष भावऱ (talk) 06:51, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Uploading images from electronic documents publically available on the Library of Congress website.[edit]
Hello, I want to upload a photograph from an electronic document hosted on the library of congress website. The book was published in the 1890s, so it's long been public domain. However, I did not digitize the document, the library of congress did. Would uploading a public domain photo from a scan available on the Library of Congress website break wikimedia's terms of use? YumeBright (talk) 06:53, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @YumeBright: I can't think of any imaginable problem here with Wikimedia's terms of use, unless the (undescribed) content would somehow violate our terms of use.
- Scanning or otherwise faithfully replicating a 2-dimensional work creates no new intellectual property rights. All there are is the rights to the underlying work (which in this case is public domain, so there is no copyright involved). - Jmabel ! talk 07:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Terrorist-Related content[edit]
I don't think that I could ask the permission to al-Hayat Media Center to use their cover song. So could I use it in it.wikipedia? 1Ciaoman1 (talk) 07:56, 6 January 2024 (UTC)